The Committee: 2-Reflecting the Community | Chuck Knows Church

The Committee: 2-Reflecting the Community | Chuck Knows Church


[traffic sounds] [traffic sounds] [homeless man] got an extra? [chuck] ummm.. hey, uh.. yeah actually. There ya go Obliged… Your, welcome My pleasure Have a seat Chuck. Wait, how do you?.. Actually I need to.. alright, Yeah, sure. [homeless man] Take a load off. strange isn’t it over the years I have watched it change this neighborhood. Park Grove Community Church Don’t see no park. or grow you [Chuck] I think I’ve heard this one before. [homeless man] Used to be a park right there a-lotta ‘used to be’s’ around here But things change. People change. Urban decline, urban renewal, all come and go. not sure Park Grove members have even took a walk in this community forgot who it
serves. Now,… seems like a fortress don’t it. [Chuck] Kinda [homeless man] Medieval castle locks on the gates, moats with sharks, [Chuck] I think you mean alligators. [homeless man] impossible for the outside world to get in it don’t have to be that way better get to it,.. Chuck [our happy intro music] Park Community Church has lost its
pastor and its way and it is closing its doors unless it reinvents
itself despite itself, with the help of Chuck. [we love our happy intro music] The Committee hot hands, no trip its hot [trumpet sound by Chuck] Coffee!!… coffee I said, alright, which you apparently all
need. Alright, what do we got going on here? Ohhhh, the rummage sale Hey when is the rummage sale again? [sensing some Chuck sarcasm] Its-ssss Saturday?.. [Chuck] Yeah I know, I saw, I was just.. alright. You guys care if I move this is a
little crowdy. Just be careful with it We are gonna try to sell that later. [Chuck] Sure we don’t hurt the dead thing.. Right, here make you comfy, there, oh, now you can see everything
that’s going on. I think it works. That part works.. [Chuck] This is fun isn’t it That is beautiful. Someone will need a lamp believe you me. Oh, it’s a lamp. (um-huh) Now does it know it’s a lamp? Because I don’t think anyone told it it’s a
lamp. That’s funny Chuck [don’t think she actually thought that was funny] Okay, hey how much for a Jesus. No, no-no, not allowed We can’t sell religious items at the
rummage. So.. [Chuck] Sorry? It’s, it’s church policy we
cannot sell religious items. Oh, right, cause we’re just gonna give it away. Excuse me? You’re gonna give him away.. Right? Oh, no, we are doing this to make
money, actually. But aren’t we in the business of giving
Jesus away. Okay, I don’t you think you are understanding what I’m saying we cannot sell religious items. I’m not
understanding… We used to have really nice things Well it is a rummage sale. Well clientele
is different that’s all. The clientele? Yeah, the neighborhood. Everything has changed. What used to be
our biggest annual fundraiser, it’s just gone
downhill. Everything is different. Hardly anybody
comes to our rummage sales anymore. Because nobody wants to buy crochet
doilies & knitted booties. Well we’re not selling crochet doilies
and knitted booties. [that looks like the stinkeye] I don’t care, so what. Sometimes it annoys me Like what we’ve done in the past is
wrong. No, no, we’re doing the best we can with
what we have. And I suppose you would sell what video games? That wouldn’t be awesome? No.. Hey Chuck What if we invite the community to sell
their own stuff? I mean you see lots of new families
moving in right & (Yeah) selling their homes, condos in a lot of stuff to sell. Right next door I saw a couple painting their house. Uh, but there are people in this community
who don’t have anything to sell. besides how we gonna make money if
everybody selling their own things?.. Well that’s not the point is it. Well,
maybe help get more neighbors into our church. Alright we gotta be careful anytime well, you know, we are just trying to get more people into the church it might be misguided. Remember we are trying to give Jesus away. You know what we talked about this already. I don’t get it. Alright, think about it in this way. Neighborhoods change, right, they are
always changing and the church shouldn’t be the exception to that. Sounds about right. But, this church is
like an island. Hey Daniel Sorry I am late had to drop
Andrea off at a soccer game. What’s all this stuff?
Rummage sale.. What do you mean, ‘the congregation’s like an island’? Well you know, an island of middle-class, mostly older members, in
a sea of diverse communities. (amazement sigh) How much for the glove? Uh, okay so, what are the park Grove ministries
that focus on the community? What happened to those ministries that had anything to do with our neighbors? Man, I
have been here a long time and, you know, probably should have said something sooner But I, I, just didn’t want to make waves. I mean it’s like our community has
changed but nobody around here wants to admit it. I don’t know anyone in our church who
has a desire to reach out to new members. Well maybe they, we, just don’t know how. What if our church started a softball team? Right
I mean that’s community ministry? A softball team? Yeah! Oh, I’ve been there done. That was a long time ago. I know a few guys who wouldn’t step foot
in the church. But the might set foot on a baseball field. I’ve
always thought that if we can get people to come to church,
but not so much for “church” but you know maybe for picnic. Or a softball game. It’s a lot less intimidating, don’t you think? I think it’s genius. How bout it Mr. Riley? The Park Grove holy cows. I like it, I mean holy cows, you have the cows on the jerseys, the whole thing. Cows? Can’t we do better than cows? At least make them sacred cows. but won’t people think we’re a Hindu church? Uh, temple, actually. A Hindu church/temple. Nope, just Hindu
temple. (GRUNT) I play a mean first base. Used to call me Mister Stretch. Haha! You’re too old, you need for speed. You’re too short. (I’m petite) And you’ll fall down, I’ve seen you. You. You?.. play softball? You’re
kidding right?.. Okay I could turn two faster than any of you. Okay, first of all do you even know what that means? [lots of chatter] two single plays are kinda smashed together. Hey everybody. I think we are missing the point here. Toss me the heat, uh, a softball team looks an awful lot like a rummage sale. Doesn’t it? Right? Look there’s nothing
inherently wrong with um, you know, sporting events or
bargain basements. But I think we’re missing the
mark people can get that stuff anywhere. People can get all of this stuff anywhere. The church should mean more
than that. See, people are looking for meaning in
their lives. Just like us. Exactly. To have a relationship with
God. In a community that looks nothing like
this church? Well community in transition. In
transition? It’s already transitioned. I mean it’s
always transitioning. Look there’s always gonna be changes in
age and income, language, race.. You got that right. Our
congregation is (old / seasoned). I’m just saying It’s true, our community today looks very
different than it used to. We need people on this committee who live in our community. Uh, present. You’re a start. Right, so we listen to the Daniel Sanchezes right. We we listen to the other people in the community but we have to really,
really, listen to them. It’s so much more important than just sticking them on a committee. And we need to let them lead. Another committee? I mean we never seem to accomplish anything we just talk. Ain’t that the truth. Alright then we need to take action. Right? If we want real change we had to get to
know the people in the community. The demographics. Right You, you don’t have to raise your hand, sure, yeah glad to have something to say. I think its time to take action… Sorry guess just ready to roll. No no,
that’s good that’s good. How do we get this to
work though? I’ve seen some online demographic tools Great yeah, we can go online, but uh, I think we can also get out into the community. Right, uh, driving tours and walking
tours. Prayer walks! Talking to city leaders and
school teachers! Yeah, the guy who sleeps on the church steps. Who? Really getting to know the people who live around our church? Present. Okay and just what are we
supposed to be asking them? What do you all think? How long have you lived here? What do you want your neighborhood
church to stand for? Can you play center field? Do you like video games? You know we are one step away closing this church. I don’t think we have time for this right now. Sounds messy. Uh, yeah, I mean if we want to reflect our
community it will be messy and it’s gonna take
time. And we have to show sensitivity to our neighbors. There will definitely be some cultural
differences. Even prejudices. We have to question our own taboos and
and our own traditions. Hold on one second, I’ll be right back. No no, you’re gonna break that high school science department maybe give us like 10 to 15.. I’m not gonna hurt it, it’ll be fine. Have a seat. Alright, let’s call this guy Tony. That could be a girl. Ah, yes! You’re one step ahead of me, up top, give me some skin. It could be Tony with an i or Tony with
the y, right. Tony could use some soup right? Alright so we already know that we don’t
know Tony is a boy or girl. Um, what was the
color of Tony’s skin? Annual income? Was uh,
Tony softball pro? Ooh, Tony’s left handed? Anyone? Exactly! Right. God loves Tony period! And so should we. In assuming he/she was a real person and not bunch of plastic bones. But I think you get the point right and if we can
inspire the entire congregation to embrace every single Tony. We just might
be able to reinvent ourselves. There you go! It could be our last hope. And our biggest challenge. Okay won’t happen overnight No, and uh, we can’t forget the church
is not about us. It’s about God. Yes! And the moment we
forget that.. Well we forget that God is the God of all people. I think Park Grove forgot that a long time ago. Are
you saying we no longer have a heart for this
community because we obviously have a heart for this community or we wouldn’t
be here right now. It’s not your fault Mr Riley, we don’t
know the community. Look rummage sales and and baseball
teams they require the community to come to us,
rather than us going to the community. We need to remember to put others before ourselves. And then there’s life.
But if you put ourselves first and then close the doors. The day’s done.
But the day is not done. Does anybody want to go for a walk around the neighborhood? We all up for it? Let’s do it! Think fast! Where should be go first? (competing chatter on where to go first) [happy music]

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5 Replies to “The Committee: 2-Reflecting the Community | Chuck Knows Church”

  1. Great video, amazing message!  If we could just take that 'minute' to look at ourselves!  Very seldom would you find a person to just 'show up' at a church without some sort of invite, personal invite, usually 'many' personal invites.  Bravo on your work at presenting 'a message within a message'.

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